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4-AcO-DMT
Well-documented
Well-documented
Multiple authoritative sources agree on dosing and effects.
- 6 corroborating sources
- 2 ROAs with full dose ladders
- duration data present
- 30 combo interactions documented
- toxicity data (PsychonautWiki)
- classified Research-chemical
- 6 corroborating sources
- 2 ROAs with full dose ladders
- duration data present
- 30 combo interactions documented
- toxicity data (PsychonautWiki)
- classified Research-chemical
Aliases: 4-aco, Psilacetin, 4-acetoxy-dmt, O-acetylpsilocin, Synthetic mushrooms, 4acodmt
Summary
4-AcO-DMT is a synthetic psychedelic that rapidly converts to psilocin in the body, producing effects nearly identical to psilocybin mushrooms but with reportedly less nausea and body load. Effects are highly dose-dependent and can range from gentle mushroom-like experiences at low-moderate doses to intense DMT-like states at higher doses. Not recommended for individuals with personal or family history of psychosis.
Perspectives
“Beautiful life changing trip. Cannot articulate how beautiful it was. Not very visual or extremely strong, maybe due to the tolerance I built up. The lessons I thought I learned would end up not sticking, as nothing ever does. It turns out I am much less in control of things than I had thought.”
“It was a pleasant ride, despite my poor condition. I look forward to further experimentation and perhaps a deeper and more spiritually meaningful trip.”
Dose Information
| ROA | Light | Common | Strong | Heavy |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Oral | 5-15mg | 15-25mg | 25-40mg | 40mg+ |
| Insufflated | 10-15mg | 15-25mg | 25-50mg | 50mg+ |
Sources
Oral
Dose ladder — dose.wikiInsufflated
Dose ladder — PsychonautWikiOnset, Duration & After-effects
| ROA | Onset | Comeup | Peak | Offset | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Oral | 19-60 min | 30-90 min | 2-3 hrs | 1-2 hrs | 6-8 hrs |
| Insufflated | 1-15 min | 15-30 min | 1.5-3 hrs | 1-2 hrs | 3-5 hrs |
Effect Profile
201 reportsScores (0–10) curated from multiple sources:
- Effect keyword matching from PsychonautWiki catalog
- Validated against 127 Erowid trip reports
- Weighted by importance: core (×3), major (×2), minor (×1)
Strong visuals, headspace, and auditory effects with strong body load
Tolerance
Tolerance Decay
Empirical rules of thumb from community data: substantial tolerance is present for several days after a dose; nearβbaseline returns in roughly 10β14 days. Repeated redosing within a session provides diminishing returns and more sideβeffects. Data quality is anecdotal; no controlled human tolerance studies for 4βAcOβDMT specifically.
Cross-Tolerances
Effects
Aggregated from 127 single-substance Erowid and 74 Bluelight experience reports (the Bluelight figures come from the 50 of them read for effects); 148 Erowid reports where another drug was taken too are left out
Each bar shows the share of analyzed reports whose text mentions that effect — a mention is not always a first-hand experience (fear of an effect or something witnessed can count). Mentions saying the effect did not happen are left out; that check reads keywords, so it can miss some. The shaded band on a bar, and the small range after its number, is the 95% interval: where the share could plausibly be with other reports of the same kind. Fewer reports, wider band. Tap or hover any number for details. The second value is the Bluelight extractor's per-effect confidence; a dash means the row is Erowid-derived, which has no confidence measurement.
Effect glossary — · full glossary
Positive Effects 74
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Adverse Effects 45
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Also reported in combinations. In the 148 4-AcO-DMT reports where another drug was taken too, 14 (9.5%) mention hospital, emergency services or an overdose, 5 (3.4%) a seizure and 11 (7.4%) psychosis. In the 127 single-substance reports: 12.6%, 0.8% and 8.7%. These are not in the figures above: they cannot be put down to 4-AcO-DMT alone, and a mention is not always something that happened to the writer.
Combinations
Cross-Check 4-AcO-DMT with another substanceTrip Reports
Community Trip Reports
Anecdotal first-person accounts from Reddit, Erowid, Bluelight, and Dose.wiki. Click a source to expand. Reports are harm-reduction context, not medical guidance. Tags summarise each author's own verdict — how reports are classified.
Reddit 8 reports 3 positive 4 neutral 1 cautionary visit
Had an amazing experience on 25 mg of 4 ACO DMT yesterday. Are about one handful of nuts and a few slices of cheddar cheese, two hours before hand. Took the psilacetin with a big glass of magnesium citrate, the natural calm brand.
This is beyond DMT, any ayahuascha, mescaline, 5-meo-DMT ANYTHING. Preface I took 22mg metocin about 2 hours ago. 1 hour in I added a Nn,DMT hoot which was fun for a half hour because the metocin wasnt doing much. Then I remembered I had 4-aco-DMT freebase.
I took 50-55mg of 4-aco-dmt yesterday. Previous trips have been 20mg (first time 13 months ago) and 30mg 8 months ago, so I really took a big step up, I wanted the full psychedelic experience which I feel has eluded me for the most part.
100mg (a little bit more actually, perhaps closer to 110mg) is too fucking much to take! I don't know what I was thinking. My previous highest dose was 50-55 mg, so why I doubled it up is beyond me. What a dope I am.
I haven't talked about this with many people and not found a community like this, so I'm sorry if this is common knowledge. On 4aco dmt, my trip started with me suddenly feeling that I was curled up on the top of some stairs.
So last night I tried 4-aco-dmt for the first time, I had 60mg fumarate and I dropped it all not knowing how high of a dose that would be. I had a pretty intense experience, a lot of visuals and scenarios it felt way more intense than mushrooms, but there's one thing in particula...
My old room mate left me a bag of 4ACO when he went to Europe, accompanied with the advice βplease be carefulβ. IDK how much we actually did, but while drunk me and a friend dosed ourselves using a gram scale, then stupidly did a little bit more via finger dipping.
Erowid 8 reports 4 positive 4 cautionary visit
Three months separated me from the most trying time in my short history as a person. I had returned home Β had been rescued, rather, by my family Β after destroying my life, job, and friendships with my addictions to cocaine and heroin, and was living with my parents for the first time in over two years.
Plugging the Magic Ice Cube T0 4-AcO-DMT fumarate 22.5 mg rectal T+5h Melatonin 4mg oral (daily) Background: I am a moderate psychedelic drugs user for about 10 years, almost 30 years old now and I weight approx. 70kg for 1m81.
I donΒt normally do trip reports but the scope of my most recent experience was pretty interesting so I decided to attempt to put it in words that made sense. This experience wasn't a breakthrough of any kind but more of a string of insightful thoughts and beautiful colors to assist in the mood setting.
Substances: Time Dosage ROA Substance T-02:00 (repeated) oral Alcohol T 00:00 20mg oral 4-AcO-DMT ?? (repeated) smoked Cannabis Participants: MrHH [1988 +/- 54kg], D [1985 +/- 58kg], P [1985 +/- 58kg] Date: 19/oct/2014 Place: P's house Written by: MrHH Antecedents/Additional notes: + Substance has been analyzed through...
[Erowid Note: Two samples of powder (even of the same chemical) with equivalent volumes won't necessarily weigh the same. For this reason, eyeballing is an inaccurate and potentially dangerous method of measuring, particularly for substances that are active in very small amounts.
[Erowid Note: The dose described in this report is very high, potentially beyond Erowid's 'heavy' range, and could pose serious health risks or result in unwanted, extreme effects.
[Erowid Note: The dose described in this report is very high, potentially beyond Erowid's 'heavy' range, and could pose serious health risks or result in unwanted, extreme effects. Sometimes extremely high doses reported are errors rather than actual doses used.] Well, at least I'm laughing now.
*Note: I don't recommend taking this high a dose and the only reason I do is for informational and research purposes.* [Erowid Note: The dose described in this report is very high, potentially beyond Erowid's 'heavy' range, and could pose serious health risks or result in unwanted, extreme effects.
Bluelight 5 threads 3 positive 2 neutral visit
The following Greek letters have been changed to protect the innocent. This trip report is written by Kappa. This was our fourth time taking 4-AcO-MALT, our first three times being at 25, 50, and 75 mg, and this one finally being our push to 100 mg.
This was my second experience with 4-AcO-MALT. My first experience was not too long before this, but it had only produced generally mild effects, so I decided to double the dose and try again.
September 4th, 2010 12mg of 4-acetoxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine (psilacetin) via IM injection Introduction: Life is strange and different for me these days. I have been in a serious relationship of one form or another since I was 17, and living with a woman since I was 19.
This was my first experience with 4-AcO-MALT, and though it was light enough that I probably wouldn't have even written a report normally, I figured it was worth writing this up given that this is a brand new molecule, with to my knowledge nothing written on it yet.
Hey all just wanted to say hello and I'm looking forward to contributing to the site. Recently I have felt all sorts of changes in my mind which led me to psychedelic research.
Dose.wiki 9 reports 3 positive 5 neutral 1 cautionary visit
I took 20mg of 4-aco-dmt with my tea in the bath tub of my apartment alone. Looking to pass the time in the bath, I decided to shave, but the nausea kicked in sooner than I thought and it was pretty difficult. During the nausea, I began getting weird thoughtsβ¦
I had the day off work, it was a lovely day, so I had an early trip in the park by myself. I thought I would start off by watching some pornography, but it looked so fake that I lost all interest in it. I was listening to some music as well, and the actorsββ¦
I took 26mg of 4-aco-dmt alone in my bedroom at 8pm. In 20 minutes, I was extremely nauseous. I wanted to throw up badly, but I held it in uncomfortably because I didnβt want to throw up the drug before I was sure it was absorbed. I turned off all the lightsβ¦
I grabbed a bottle of water, put earbuds in, turned on my ipod, smoked hash oil, swallowed 20mg of 4-aco-dmt, and walked outside. The setting was a beautiful sunny day with a temperature of around 80 degrees. I spent the beginning of my trip walking alongβ¦
This truth has changed my life and it was the most powerful thing I had experienced at the time.. Almost a year later, I still see everyone as myself. You are me and I am you. I experience frission/asmr and whenever I read something that has to do with unityβ¦
Beautiful life changing trip. Cannot articulate how beautiful it was. Not very visual or extremely strong, maybe due to the tolerance I built up. The lessons I thought I learned would end up not sticking, as nothing ever does. It turns out I am much less inβ¦
I get off a bus that slowly and haphazardly travels through the snowy streets. There was a man on the bus, his face was covered in blood and he was throwing up on the floor. I walk towards the art museum from city hall taking swigs of my bottle as I go. Iβ¦
I flavor the nasty blackish water and down it all in one gut wrenching gulp. First I taste the flavoring agent I added, then the metallic mildew flavor, and lastly a lasting chemical bitterness that resembles the flavor of the original chemical. I have toβ¦
Bluelight Reference Guide
Tryptamines The Big & Dandy 4-AcO-DMT Thread - Act Five
Welcome to the Big & Dandy 4-AcO-DMT Thread Psilacetin / 4-AcO-N,N-DMT / 4-Acetoxy-DMT / O-Acetyl-Psilocin iupac = 3-[2-(Dimethylamino)ethyl]-1H-indol-4-yl acetate External links: Erowid: Erowid 4-AcO-DMT Vault Trip Reports Wikipedia 4-Aco-DMT TIHKAL 4-AcO-DMT Entry Subthreads: First Time Dosage & Methods of Administra...
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