Hello everyone, this is an experience i documented yesterday while doing a MDA + 2-cb flip. Fun ass trip had an amazing time. If you have any questions ask them and I will try to answer to the best of my ability.
MDA
Well-documented
Well-documented
Multiple authoritative sources agree on dosing and effects.
- 6 corroborating sources
- 1 ROA with full dose ladder
- duration data present
- 30 combo interactions documented
- toxicity data (PsychonautWiki)
Well-documented
Multiple authoritative sources agree on dosing and effects.
- 6 corroborating sources
- 1 ROA with full dose ladder
- duration data present
- 30 combo interactions documented
- toxicity data (PsychonautWiki)
Aliases: Sass, Sally, Sass-a-frass, Tenamfetamine, Sass or sassafras [also used for mdma]
Summary
3,4-Methylenedioxyamphetamine (also known as MDA, and Tenamfetamine, or colloquially as "Sally", "Sass", or "Sass-a-frass") is a synthetic entactogen of the amphetamine chemical class. It produces long-lived entactogenic, stimulant and mild psychedelic effects that include stimulation, anxiety suppression, enhanced feelings of empathy, affection, and sociability, and euphoria when administered.
Perspectives
“The coming on was gradual and pleasant, taking from an hour to an hour and one half to do so. The trip was euphoric and intense despite my having been naturally depleted from a working day and having started so late. One thing that impressed itself upon me was the feeling I got of seeing the play of events, of what I thought to be the significance of certain people coming into my life, and why my ‘dance’, like everyone else’s, is unique. I saw that every encounter or event is a potential for growth, and an opportunity for me to realize my completeness at where I am, here and now, not at some future where I must lug the pieces of the past for a final assemblage ‘there.’ I was reminded of living the moment to its fullest and I felt that seeing this was indicative that I was on the right track.”
“Make no mistake about it, this was a strong roll. 80mg came on fast and whisked me away with a head and body high that took me to the edge. Caution should be exercised both with dose and frequency of use.”
Dose Information
| ROA | Light | Common | Strong | Heavy |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Oral | 20-40mg | 40-80mg | 80-120mg | 120mg+ |
Light
Common
Strong
Heavy
Sources
Oral
Dose ladder — dose.wikiOnset, Duration & After-effects
| ROA | Onset | Comeup | Peak | Offset | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Oral | 30-90 min | 15-45 min | 2.5-4 hrs | 2-3 hrs | 4-8 hrs |
Effect Profile
109 reportsScores (0–10) curated from multiple sources:
- Effect keyword matching from PsychonautWiki catalog
- Validated against 56 Erowid trip reports
- Weighted by importance: core (×3), major (×2), minor (×1)
Psychedelic
5.5
Strong
6/10
Strong visuals and auditory effects with strong body load, mild headspace
Visual Intensity
×3
8
visual geometry
Headspace Depth
×3
4
emotion enhancement
time distortion
Auditory Effects
×1
8
Body Load / Somatic Effects
×1
10
temperature regulation suppression
teeth grinding
increased heart rate
Empathogen
8.7
Intense+
9/10
Strong euphoria, stimulation, and sensory enhancement with moderate empathy
Empathy / Social Openness
×3
7
empathy, affection, and sociability enhancement
Euphoria / Mood Elevation
×2
10
physical euphoria
cognitive euphoria
emotion enhancement
Stimulation
×1
10
stimulation
teeth grinding
increased heart rate
Sensory Enhancement
×1
10
tactile enhancement
increased libido
Stimulant
5.9
Strong
6/10
Strong euphoria with strong anxiety/jitters, moderate stimulation, low focus
Stimulation / Energy
×3
7
stimulation
Euphoria / Mood Lift
×2
10
physical euphoria
cognitive euphoria
motivation enhancement
Focus / Productivity
×2
3
motivation enhancement
thought acceleration
Anxiety / Jitters
×1
10
anxiety
teeth grinding
increased heart rate
Tolerance
No tolerance chart. No study has measured how long tolerance to it lasts, so this page shows what is known instead of a curve.
No study has measured tolerance to MDA: the two controlled human studies each gave a single dose, and none has tested repeat doses. PsychonautWiki estimates that tolerance halves in about 3 days and is gone in about 7, without citing a source. What is known about repeat MDMA doses has not been tested for MDA.
Sources: Baggott et al. 2019 · Straumann et al. 2025 · PsychonautWiki: MDA
Cross-Tolerances
other substituted amphetamines
Effects
Aggregated from 56 single-substance Erowid and 53 Bluelight experience reports (the Bluelight figures come from the 50 of them read for effects); 63 Erowid reports where another drug was taken too are left out
Each bar shows the share of analyzed reports whose text mentions that effect — a mention is not always a first-hand experience (fear of an effect or something witnessed can count). Mentions saying the effect did not happen are left out; that check reads keywords, so it can miss some. The shaded band on a bar, and the small range after its number, is the 95% interval: where the share could plausibly be with other reports of the same kind. Fewer reports, wider band. Tap or hover any number for details. The second value is the Bluelight extractor's per-effect confidence; a dash means the row is Erowid-derived, which has no confidence measurement.
Effect glossary — · full glossary
Positive Effects 76
67.0% (95% interval 58 to 75 percent)
92%
44.4% (95% interval 35 to 54 percent)
86%
34.0% (95% interval 22 to 48 percent)
87%
34.0% (95% interval 26 to 43 percent)
77%
33.9% (95% interval 26 to 43 percent)
88%
33.0% (95% interval 25 to 42 percent)
88%
30.2% (95% interval 22 to 40 percent)
85%
24.5% (95% interval 17 to 34 percent)
89%
24.0% (95% interval 14 to 37 percent)
84%
22.0% (95% interval 13 to 35 percent)
90%
18.0% (95% interval 10 to 31 percent)
88%
18.0% (95% interval 10 to 31 percent)
88%
17.9% (95% interval 12 to 26 percent)
89%
17.9% (95% interval 12 to 26 percent)
82%
16.0% (95% interval 8 to 28 percent)
88%
14.0% (95% interval 7 to 26 percent)
88%
14.0% (95% interval 7 to 26 percent)
82%
14.0% (95% interval 7 to 26 percent)
85%
14.0% (95% interval 7 to 26 percent)
82%
13.2% (95% interval 8 to 21 percent)
91%
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12.0% (95% interval 6 to 24 percent)
88%
11.3% (95% interval 7 to 19 percent)
89%
10.0% (95% interval 4 to 21 percent)
85%
10.0% (95% interval 4 to 21 percent)
82%
Auditory Effects
9.4% (95% interval 5 to 16 percent)
84%
8.5% (95% interval 4 to 15 percent)
75%
8.0% (95% interval 3 to 19 percent)
86%
8.0% (95% interval 3 to 19 percent)
86%
8.0% (95% interval 3 to 19 percent)
81%
8.0% (95% interval 3 to 19 percent)
84%
8.0% (95% interval 3 to 19 percent)
85%
8.0% (95% interval 3 to 19 percent)
85%
6.0% (95% interval 2 to 16 percent)
92%
6.0% (95% interval 2 to 16 percent)
80%
6.0% (95% interval 2 to 16 percent)
78%
6.0% (95% interval 2 to 16 percent)
85%
6.0% (95% interval 2 to 16 percent)
85%
4.0% (95% interval 1 to 14 percent)
85%
4.0% (95% interval 1 to 14 percent)
85%
4.0% (95% interval 1 to 14 percent)
82%
4.0% (95% interval 1 to 14 percent)
90%
4.0% (95% interval 1 to 14 percent)
85%
4.0% (95% interval 1 to 14 percent)
82%
4.0% (95% interval 1 to 14 percent)
78%
4.0% (95% interval 1 to 14 percent)
75%
4.0% (95% interval 1 to 14 percent)
75%
4.0% (95% interval 1 to 14 percent)
80%
4.0% (95% interval 1 to 14 percent)
80%
4.0% (95% interval 1 to 14 percent)
88%
2.0% (95% interval 0 to 10 percent)
80%
2.0% (95% interval 0 to 10 percent)
90%
2.0% (95% interval 0 to 10 percent)
85%
2.0% (95% interval 0 to 10 percent)
85%
2.0% (95% interval 0 to 10 percent)
85%
2.0% (95% interval 0 to 10 percent)
85%
2.0% (95% interval 0 to 10 percent)
85%
2.0% (95% interval 0 to 10 percent)
85%
2.0% (95% interval 0 to 10 percent)
85%
2.0% (95% interval 0 to 10 percent)
80%
2.0% (95% interval 0 to 10 percent)
85%
2.0% (95% interval 0 to 10 percent)
85%
2.0% (95% interval 0 to 10 percent)
75%
2.0% (95% interval 0 to 10 percent)
90%
2.0% (95% interval 0 to 10 percent)
80%
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75%
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80%
2.0% (95% interval 0 to 10 percent)
90%
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80%
2.0% (95% interval 0 to 10 percent)
70%
2.0% (95% interval 0 to 10 percent)
80%
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80%
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80%
2.0% (95% interval 0 to 10 percent)
90%
2.0% (95% interval 0 to 10 percent)
85%
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95%
2.0% (95% interval 0 to 10 percent)
75%
Adverse Effects 57
30.2% (95% interval 22 to 40 percent)
84%
26.4% (95% interval 19 to 36 percent)
82%
24.0% (95% interval 14 to 37 percent)
82%
17.0% (95% interval 11 to 25 percent)
82%
17.0% (95% interval 11 to 25 percent)
86%
16.0% (95% interval 8 to 28 percent)
79%
15.1% (95% interval 10 to 23 percent)
85%
14.0% (95% interval 7 to 26 percent)
80%
12.0% (95% interval 6 to 24 percent)
87%
10.0% (95% interval 4 to 21 percent)
88%
10.0% (95% interval 4 to 21 percent)
81%
10.0% (95% interval 4 to 21 percent)
87%
8.9% (95% interval 4 to 19 percent)
–
8.5% (95% interval 4 to 15 percent)
87%
8.0% (95% interval 3 to 19 percent)
88%
8.0% (95% interval 3 to 19 percent)
86%
7.5% (95% interval 4 to 14 percent)
82%
6.6% (95% interval 3 to 13 percent)
81%
6.6% (95% interval 3 to 13 percent)
82%
6.0% (95% interval 2 to 16 percent)
82%
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4.0% (95% interval 1 to 14 percent)
90%
4.0% (95% interval 1 to 14 percent)
78%
4.0% (95% interval 1 to 14 percent)
80%
4.0% (95% interval 1 to 14 percent)
88%
4.0% (95% interval 1 to 14 percent)
82%
4.0% (95% interval 1 to 14 percent)
88%
4.0% (95% interval 1 to 14 percent)
82%
4.0% (95% interval 1 to 14 percent)
80%
4.0% (95% interval 1 to 14 percent)
82%
4.0% (95% interval 1 to 14 percent)
90%
2.0% (95% interval 0 to 10 percent)
85%
2.0% (95% interval 0 to 10 percent)
75%
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85%
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90%
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80%
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85%
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70%
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85%
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65%
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85%
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85%
Also reported in combinations. In the 63 MDA reports where another drug was taken too, 3 (4.8%) mention hospital, emergency services or an overdose, 0 (0.0%) a seizure and 2 (3.2%) psychosis. In the 56 single-substance reports: 3.6%, 0.0% and 3.6%. These are not in the figures above: they cannot be put down to MDA alone, and a mention is not always something that happened to the writer.
Combinations
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Community Trip Reports
Anecdotal first-person accounts from Reddit, Erowid, Bluelight, and Dose.wiki. Click a source to expand. Reports are harm-reduction context, not medical guidance. Tags summarise each author's own verdict — how reports are classified.
Reddit 8 reports 3 positive 5 neutral visit
I’m recently new to this beautiful substance, and what I can say so far is for me I find it very mellow and almost therapeutic, like shrooms vibes without the mind bending fuckery lol.
Posting to describe my experience. (It's a rather long one. But ita described from beginning to end)((and i typed this on mobile. Bear with me plz)) Me and the lady have been looking high and low for MDMA for months since we took it together before.
My dad was diagnosed with cancer October 4, 2021. We had no primary type of diagnosis, and were never given a prognosis. He looked, for the most part, fine. He was my dad- he was invincible.
copy and pasted from a comment i left because ive wanted to ask other people for a while now. as many here know, high doses of mdma (or just mda) can cause deliriant-like hallucinations.
Hey everyone, I’m here to report my first time experience with MDA. On NYE, my bf and I took 100mg of MDA each with our friends who took 150-180mg of (less than pure) MDMA, so I can compare a little here on our experiences.
ok so i’m tripping on shrooms right now so hopefully this makes sense. I have MDA coming in soon and it has always been my dream to do it or molly. i have done lsd, shrooms, ex, meth, coke, etc but never done mdma or mda.
I just took 85mg MDA and 75mic of L. It’s been a hard few months (last trip was Dec) with some traumatic family situations. I’m setting the intention of surrendering and rediscovering myself and my own power. Love you all. See you in the flip side.
Erowid 8 reports 3 positive 4 neutral 1 cautionary visit
Before trying MDA, my experience beforehand was marijuana, mushrooms, ayahuasca, salvia, and MDMA. I defenitely loved MDMA so I knew I was in for something good. I bought a Green Mitsubishi from my roommate, and popped it that night.
One time I used MDA with a lover to help us decide if we were going to stay together or whether she would return to an old lover who was open to her returning. We did the MDA at night on my sundeck. We had a wonderful time together.
An Edgy Contentment an MDA/MDMA Comparison I am a long-time (30+ year) psychedelics/entheogenics user (including a number of major high/heroic-dose experiences under supervision of both of my shamanic teachers).
[Erowid Note: Most MDXX tablets weigh 300mg or less including binders. Futhermore, the intensity and effects described are inconsistent with a 945mg dose, which is considered an extremely high dose (see MDA Dose Chart).
I've tried MDMA 11 times, with my first experience in the summer of 1996, the last few experiences getting less good. Three of the 11 MDMA uses were all under 100mg. I've tried MDE once and enjoyed it.
I had done MDMA twice over the course of many years and was underwhelmed by it, but I remained curious and open. A close, longtime friend has access to high purity substances and conveyed to me that the reason my experience had been lackluster (not bad, just dull) at the time, might be due to the stuff I had procured b...
[Erowid Note: A substance(s) in this report might be identified incorrectly. Erowid reviewers question the author's identification of the drug described. Although the report is included in the collection, the substance might be something other than the author believed it to be.] I am a 19 year old female, 100 lbs, heal...
My friend absolutely love taking 'Pure Loves' which is 100% MDA. He describes them as a really intense trip. It doesn't hold the lovey-dovey feelings of MDMA, but you still feel really good. I am always willing to try anything (as long as it doesn't kill me the first time), so i agreed to taking a pill.
Bluelight 8 threads 5 positive 2 neutral 1 cautionary visit
i don't normally post reports, but i thought i'd share this one since questions on MDA vs. MDMA creep up all the time, i might as well add to the body of experience.
This trip report is an account of the past four days of my life, to the best of my recollection. The report is meant to be entertaining but also informative as it shows the many dangers of combining drugs and alcohol in mass quantities.
two mda trips.. a bipolar event? In the past week I have tried MDA twice. Green Spades Last sunday, I bought two pills from a source that implied the words "more euphoric" than most extacy pills. From the information I gathered, the substance sounded more likely to be MDA than MDMA.
MDA Experience - 2nd or 42nd - Experienced - My Life( VERY LONG ) I am not new to this board, however I never find the time to post. Today I have decided to chronicle what happened to me during my freshman year of college (2001 – 2002) due to my failing memory of the time, which I have no doubt was brought on by my hea...
I've rolled on MDMA a handful of times, and MDA once, all in the comfort of my own home with good friends. I've never rolled at a club or in public before, and after my last experiment with MDA, I decided it's time to roll to some good techno, a good DJ, bad ass lighting, other people rolling all over, etc..
MDA ~* First *~ Overwhelming but good! Alright, in the last 2 years I have taken MDMA 7 times. I have no MD tolerance... Interestingly enough I have never had pills that didnt require two for full effects.. So about 4 months ago i call a friend(we'll call him Rico Suave) up looking for some tabs..
Without too much boring back story, I'm semi-experienced with MDMA, rolled a handful of times, used poppy pods on a weekly basis for a while, as well as a whole list of other things. I got my hands on some MDA because I heard the experience was a little different and wanted to try.
Ecstasy (???) -- Experienced -- A very very scary night Long story so just bare with me here Around 12ish on Saturday night popped two "3HR" rolls, tabs whatever you wanna call it, with my boyfriend. And basiclly from what I have read about these tabs they are almost pure speed.
Bluelight Reference Guide
[MEGA] MDA Discussion
For all you need to know about MDA, check here: MDA Drug FAQ Original Post: I realized there was no big and dandy MDA thread (if there is, then please direct me, otherwise it would be nice if a mod could make this into it).
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PiHKAL #100: MDA
“The coming on was gradual and pleasant, taking from an hour to an hour and one half to do so. The trip was euphoric and intense despite my having been naturally depleted from a working day and having started so late. One thing that impressed itself upon me was the feeling I got of seeing the play of events, of what I thought to be the significance of certain people coming into my life, and why my ‘dance’, like everyone else’s, is unique. I saw that every encounter or event is a potential for growth, and an opportunity for me to realize my completeness at where I am, here and now, not at some future where I must lug the pieces of the past for a final assemblage ‘there.’ I was reminded of living the moment to its fullest and I felt that seeing this was indicative that I was on the right track.”
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